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Compensating Sprockets

 

The caller was inquiring about the cost of a bottom end rebuild on his Evo.

"How do you know it needs rebuilding?" I asked.

"She’s hammering away in there." He replied. "My drag pipes don’t even cover up the knocking."

Already, I knew from experience that it was a loose or worn compensating sprocket assembly.

I told the caller that I had good news for him or at least better news than he was expecting.

Over the years, I can’t think of a noise that’s raised more blood pressure than the dreaded bottom end knock, but the long and short of it is that in most cases, the culprit is something else entirely.

Truth is, a lot of mechanics can’t even detect this noise, especially in its early stages.

But being typical Harley riders, they immediately bypass all the simple, easy-to-fix inexpensive solutions and proceed to the most complicated, hard to get at and most costly-to-fix solutions.

Your first question should be "Can you tell me what’s causing this noise?", not "How much to do my bottom end? "Well, if you can hear your bottom end over the staccato of drag pipes, that sound would almost have to be the shattering of engine cases bouncing off the pavement as a broken connecting rod did its Grim Reaper" routine.

On the streets, I’ve only seen that scenario a few times in the last decade.

So, why don’t we examine what’s really causing this heart-palpitating noise?

Outside of a collapsed hydraulic lifter, nothing else can cause this much internal noise.

The lifter noise will come from the right side of the engine so it is easy to isolate or eliminate the problem. That leaves only one area to check, and that is the primary system, which is on the left side and connects the motor to the transmission delivering power back via the clutch to the rear wheel.

Now, the noises emanating form the primary are serious and require immediate attention, but they do not cost anywhere near that of bottom end work.

Check the simple and inexpensive solutions first

If you’re lucky, your primary chain could be too loose, and all that’s happening is that it’s constantly slapping against the inside of the primary case. That would take 15 minutes to repair. You may want to change the fluid since aluminum filings from the casing will not be attracted to the drain plug magnet. A loose or stretched chain can be whipsawing on and off the front sprocket, which also would make lots of noise and a jerking sensation, especially in high gear. That may simply be a loose chain but more likely it would be an unevenly worn one with tight and loose spots and/or worn out hooked sprocket.

Too tight a chain (or a worn one with tight spots) will cause a whine as opposed to a slapping or knocking and might cause the clutch to drag. this condition lessens the life of all components parts, including bearings.

No lubrication causes all kinds of havoc and noise and is evidenced by an orange rusty color evenly dispensed throughout the primary,. The chain must be inspected for a broken or missing (disintegrated) roller that can emit a grinding noise.

A constant grinding sound can be caused by a misaligned chain as it tries to re-cut teeth to accommodate its path more easily. I don’t even want to get into all the damage all those fine cuttings will initiate.

Also, a new chain should be broken in and checked after 500 miles. Consider changing oil as the break-in period generates lots of filings.

Loose nuts on the primary adjuster will allow it to flop up and down. After these chain-related problems are checked, examine the compensating sprocket assembly.

Compensating Sprockets

Big Twins since 1955 and Sportsters from 1957 to the mid-70s used four basic types of engine-to-transmission power shock absorption devices. The pulsing energy of the motor is cushioned to protect the power train back through the transmission.

The downside to these various mechanisms is that they suffer some power transfer loss from the engine to the rear well as it grabs the asphalt. This is another reason that the Sportster is faster than the Big Twin since many models are direct drive with only a sprocket and not the added compensating sprocket assembly

Bottom End Grenade

Although I recommend checking primary chain problems first, the bottom end knock invariably comes from a malfunctioning compensator. A mechanic can easily tell the difference between the two noises with a stethoscope, but this requires experience. Why would it sound like a bottom end knock? Because it’s attached to a bottom end component - the flywheel sprocket shaft. Although sprocket shaft bearing assembly spacing determines end play of the flywheels and their positioning inside the motor cases----- 35lb. flywheels rotating up to 6500 RPM would turn into a grenade if allowed to rotate into the motor case housing-----the compensating sprocket package ensures that this crucial end play is maintained.

So, when this assembly malfunctions through improper torque or wear, the accompanying noise transfers along the sprocket shaft into the bottom end, leading the rider to think the connecting rods, crank pin and associated bearing are worn beyond tolerance and therefore causing the insidious knock.

But not so.

IS THE SPRING STILL SPRINGING?

There are four main compensating assemblies used in Harley. Only one, which incorporates a coiled spring looks like an absorption device. The 1955-69 Big Twin and all Sportster compensators use this spring type device.

Two interlocking cams (#1 & #2) ride up on each other, transferring the power surge and compressing the attached spring to absorb the initial shock while the main thrust goes back along the primary chain through the transmission and the clutch to the rear wheel. After the shock, the cams are forced to rotate back to their resting position by the decompressing spring.

The three remaining types of compensators are similar in that they still used the rotating cams but they differ in they use diaphragm springs enclosed in a round metal housing (#4). To the uninitiated, these springs look like flat pieces of steel and it is difficult to see how they would compress let alone absorb shock---but they do. The nut (#5). and it’s a big one that holds the package together at 80 to100 ft. lb.. torque, may come loose or may bottom out, fooling the wrench into thinking that the proper torque has been achieved although the knocking noise will belie that.

A simple test is to grab the diaphragm spring package (#4) firmly and try to rotate it. If you can, something is wrong because your hands can not generate horsepower. Replace the nut if it is bottoming out on the shaft. This culprit is sneaky, and most people don’t check it out.

Knocking Cams

If the nut is not at fault, on 1970 to 1982 models a cup is used as a thrust washer between the spring package. As the cup between the spring package (#3) wears, it gets thinner and exerts less pressure, allowing the cams to rattle by slapping each other, causing the "knock"

The two remaining assemblies since 1983 eliminate this cup and incorporate it in hardened metal to resist wear with the outer sliding cam (#1 with #3). The 1991 and up unit eliminated the blind hole on the end of the nut (#5) i.e., put the hole in the end and added a space. Both later units thinned the number of diaphragm springs to four in the steel housing (#4).

If compensator parts become worn an other noise may occur and that is a rattling rotor. The alternator is comprised of a stator and rotor and is sandwiched between the sprocket shaft extension (#6) and the outer motor case. The rotor’s splined inner fits on the corresponding sprocket shaft spline and rotates with the flywheels and the compensator. If excess play occurs it can cause a knock of it’s own. This must be fixed immediately because the stator can be damaged and make the charging system malfunction.

If on the road and a compensatory noise is diagnosed-- -most easily heard when taking off in first gear-- - you may proceed home at a steady speed if close by. However, if temporary repairs are required, you may add a diaphragm spring to the compensator package to beef it up. Of course, going to all this trouble you might as well replace the offending part or parts since the same amount of effort is required. An easy roadside fix is to put a washer under the compensator nut to take up excess play and increase spring tension. Another method is to get rid of the compensating unit altogether and go direct drive with a corresponding performance gain because a higher percentage of power will be transferred. Simply use an aftermarket splined motor sprocket or an original Harley one (40211-55) used on some early models.

"How do you know it needs rebuilding?" I asked.

"She’s hammering away in there." He replied. "My drag pipes don’t even cover up the knocking."

Already, I knew from experience that it was a loose or worn compensating sprocket assembly.

I told the caller that I had good news for him or at least better news than he was expecting.

Over the years, I can’t think of a noise that’s raised more blood pressure than the dreaded bottom end knock, but the long and short of it is that in most cases, the culprit is something else entirely.

Truth is, a lot of mechanics can’t even detect this noise, especially in its early stages.

But being typical Harley riders, they immediately bypass all the simple, easy-to-fix inexpensive solutions and proceed to the most complicated, hard to get at and most costly-to-fix solutions.

Your first question should be "Can you tell me what’s causing this noise?", not "How much to do my bottom end? "Well, if you can hear your bottom end over the staccato of drag pipes, that sound would almost have to be the shattering of engine cases bouncing off the pavement as a broken connecting rod did its Grim Reaper" routine.

On the streets, I’ve only seen that scenario a few times in the last decade.

So, why don’t we examine what’s really causing this heart-palpitating noise?

Outside of a collapsed hydraulic lifter, nothing else can cause this much internal noise.

The lifter noise will come from the right side of the engine so it is easy to isolate or eliminate the problem. That leaves only one area to check, and that is the primary system, which is on the left side and connects the motor to the transmission delivering power back via the clutch to the rear wheel.

Now, the noises emanating form the primary are serious and require immediate attention, but they do not cost anywhere near that of bottom end work.

Check the simple and inexpensive solutions first

If you’re lucky, your primary chain could be too loose, and all that’s happening is that it’s constantly slapping against the inside of the primary case. That would take 15 minutes to repair. You may want to change the fluid since aluminum filings from the casing will not be attracted to the drain plug magnet. A loose or stretched chain can be whipsawing on and off the front sprocket, which also would make lots of noise and a jerking sensation, especially in high gear. That may simply be a loose chain but more likely it would be an unevenly worn one with tight and loose spots and/or worn out hooked sprocket.

Too tight a chain (or a worn one with tight spots) will cause a whine as opposed to a slapping or knocking and might cause the clutch to drag. this condition lessens the life of all components parts, including bearings.

No lubrication causes all kinds of havoc and noise and is evidenced by an orange rusty color evenly dispensed throughout the primary,. The chain must be inspected for a broken or missing (disintegrated) roller that can emit a grinding noise.

A constant grinding sound can be caused by a misaligned chain as it tries to re-cut teeth to accommodate its path more easily. I don’t even want to get into all the damage all those fine cuttings will initiate.

Also, a new chain should be broken in and checked after 500 miles. Consider changing oil as the break-in period generates lots of filings.

Loose nuts on the primary adjuster will allow it to flop up and down. After these chain-related problems are checked, examine the compensating sprocket assembly.

Compensating Sprockets

Big Twins since 1955 and Sportsters from 1957 to the mid-70s used four basic types of engine-to-transmission power shock absorption devices. The pulsing energy of the motor is cushioned to protect the power train back through the transmission.

The downside to these various mechanisms is that they suffer some power transfer loss from the engine to the rear well as it grabs the asphalt. This is another reason that the Sportster is faster than the Big Twin since many models are direct drive with only a sprocket and not the added compensating sprocket assembly

Bottom End Grenade

Although I recommend checking primary chain problems first, the bottom end knock invariably comes from a malfunctioning compensator. A mechanic can easily tell the difference between the two noises with a stethoscope, but this requires experience. Why would it sound like a bottom end knock? Because it’s attached to a bottom end component - the flywheel sprocket shaft. Although sprocket shaft bearing assembly spacing determines end play of the flywheels and their positioning inside the motor cases----- 35lb. flywheels rotating up to 6500 RPM would turn into a grenade if allowed to rotate into the motor case housing-----the compensating sprocket package ensures that this crucial end play is maintained.

So, when this assembly malfunctions through improper torque or wear, the accompanying noise transfers along the sprocket shaft into the bottom end, leading the rider to think the connecting rods, crank pin and associated bearing are worn beyond tolerance and therefore causing the insidious knock.

But not so.

IS THE SPRING STILL SPRINGING?

There are four main compensating assemblies used in Harley. Only one, which incorporates a coiled spring looks like an absorption device. The 1955-69 Big Twin and all Sportster compensators use this spring type device.

Two interlocking cams (#1 & #2) ride up on each other, transferring the power surge and compressing the attached spring to absorb the initial shock while the main thrust goes back along the primary chain through the transmission and the clutch to the rear wheel. After the shock, the cams are forced to rotate back to their resting position by the decompressing spring.

The three remaining types of compensators are similar in that they still used the rotating cams but they differ in they use diaphragm springs enclosed in a round metal housing (#4). To the uninitiated, these springs look like flat pieces of steel and it is difficult to see how they would compress let alone absorb shock---but they do. The nut (#5). and it’s a big one that holds the package together at 80 to100 ft. lb.. torque, may come loose or may bottom out, fooling the wrench into thinking that the proper torque has been achieved although the knocking noise will belie that.

A simple test is to grab the diaphragm spring package (#4) firmly and try to rotate it. If you can, something is wrong because your hands can not generate horsepower. Replace the nut if it is bottoming out on the shaft. This culprit is sneaky, and most people don’t check it out.

Knocking Cams

If the nut is not at fault, on 1970 to 1982 models a cup is used as a thrust washer between the spring package. As the cup between the spring package (#3) wears, it gets thinner and exerts less pressure, allowing the cams to rattle by slapping each other, causing the "knock"

The two remaining assemblies since 1983 eliminate this cup and incorporate it in hardened metal to resist wear with the outer sliding cam (#1 with #3). The 1991 and up unit eliminated the blind hole on the end of the nut (#5) i.e., put the hole in the end and added a space. Both later units thinned the number of diaphragm springs to four in the steel housing (#4).

If compensator parts become worn an other noise may occur and that is a rattling rotor. The alternator is comprised of a stator and rotor and is sandwiched between the sprocket shaft extension (#6) and the outer motor case. The rotor’s splined inner fits on the corresponding sprocket shaft spline and rotates with the flywheels and the compensator. If excess play occurs it can cause a knock of it’s own. This must be fixed immediately because the stator can be damaged and make the charging system malfunction.

If on the road and a compensatory noise is diagnosed-- -most easily heard when taking off in first gear-- - you may proceed home at a steady speed if close by. However, if temporary repairs are required, you may add a diaphragm spring to the compensator package to beef it up. Of course, going to all this trouble you might as well replace the offending part or parts since the same amount of effort is required. An easy roadside fix is to put a washer under the compensator nut to take up excess play and increase spring tension. Another method is to get rid of the compensating unit altogether and go direct drive with a corresponding performance gain because a higher percentage of power will be transferred. Simply use an aftermarket splined motor sprocket or an original Harley one (40211-55) used on some early models.

"How do you know it needs rebuilding?" I asked.

"She’s hammering away in there." He replied. "My drag pipes don’t even cover up the knocking."

Already, I knew from experience that it was a loose or worn compensating sprocket assembly.

I told the caller that I had good news for him or at least better news than he was expecting.

Over the years, I can’t think of a noise that’s raised more blood pressure than the dreaded bottom end knock, but the long and short of it is that in most cases, the culprit is something else entirely.

Truth is, a lot of mechanics can’t even detect this noise, especially in its early stages.

But being typical Harley riders, they immediately bypass all the simple, easy-to-fix inexpensive solutions and proceed to the most complicated, hard to get at and most costly-to-fix solutions.

Your first question should be "Can you tell me what’s causing this noise?", not "How much to do my bottom end? "Well, if you can hear your bottom end over the staccato of drag pipes, that sound would almost have to be the shattering of engine cases bouncing off the pavement as a broken connecting rod did its Grim Reaper" routine.

On the streets, I’ve only seen that scenario a few times in the last decade.

So, why don’t we examine what’s really causing this heart-palpitating noise?

Outside of a collapsed hydraulic lifter, nothing else can cause this much internal noise.

The lifter noise will come from the right side of the engine so it is easy to isolate or eliminate the problem. That leaves only one area to check, and that is the primary system, which is on the left side and connects the motor to the transmission delivering power back via the clutch to the rear wheel.

Now, the noises emanating form the primary are serious and require immediate attention, but they do not cost anywhere near that of bottom end work.

Check the simple and inexpensive solutions first

If you’re lucky, your primary chain could be too loose, and all that’s happening is that it’s constantly slapping against the inside of the primary case. That would take 15 minutes to repair. You may want to change the fluid since aluminum filings from the casing will not be attracted to the drain plug magnet. A loose or stretched chain can be whipsawing on and off the front sprocket, which also would make lots of noise and a jerking sensation, especially in high gear. That may simply be a loose chain but more likely it would be an unevenly worn one with tight and loose spots and/or worn out hooked sprocket.

Too tight a chain (or a worn one with tight spots) will cause a whine as opposed to a slapping or knocking and might cause the clutch to drag. this condition lessens the life of all components parts, including bearings.

No lubrication causes all kinds of havoc and noise and is evidenced by an orange rusty color evenly dispensed throughout the primary,. The chain must be inspected for a broken or missing (disintegrated) roller that can emit a grinding noise.

A constant grinding sound can be caused by a misaligned chain as it tries to re-cut teeth to accommodate its path more easily. I don’t even want to get into all the damage all those fine cuttings will initiate.

Also, a new chain should be broken in and checked after 500 miles. Consider changing oil as the break-in period generates lots of filings.

Loose nuts on the primary adjuster will allow it to flop up and down. After these chain-related problems are checked, examine the compensating sprocket assembly.

Compensating Sprockets

Big Twins since 1955 and Sportsters from 1957 to the mid-70s used four basic types of engine-to-transmission power shock absorption devices. The pulsing energy of the motor is cushioned to protect the power train back through the transmission.

The downside to these various mechanisms is that they suffer some power transfer loss from the engine to the rear well as it grabs the asphalt. This is another reason that the Sportster is faster than the Big Twin since many models are direct drive with only a sprocket and not the added compensating sprocket assembly

Bottom End Grenade

Although I recommend checking primary chain problems first, the bottom end knock invariably comes from a malfunctioning compensator. A mechanic can easily tell the difference between the two noises with a stethoscope, but this requires experience. Why would it sound like a bottom end knock? Because it’s attached to a bottom end component - the flywheel sprocket shaft. Although sprocket shaft bearing assembly spacing determines end play of the flywheels and their positioning inside the motor cases----- 35lb. flywheels rotating up to 6500 RPM would turn into a grenade if allowed to rotate into the motor case housing-----the compensating sprocket package ensures that this crucial end play is maintained.

So, when this assembly malfunctions through improper torque or wear, the accompanying noise transfers along the sprocket shaft into the bottom end, leading the rider to think the connecting rods, crank pin and associated bearing are worn beyond tolerance and therefore causing the insidious knock.

But not so.

IS THE SPRING STILL SPRINGING?

There are four main compensating assemblies used in Harley. Only one, which incorporates a coiled spring looks like an absorption device. The 1955-69 Big Twin and all Sportster compensators use this spring type device.

Two interlocking cams (#1 & #2) ride up on each other, transferring the power surge and compressing the attached spring to absorb the initial shock while the main thrust goes back along the primary chain through the transmission and the clutch to the rear wheel. After the shock, the cams are forced to rotate back to their resting position by the decompressing spring.

The three remaining types of compensators are similar in that they still used the rotating cams but they differ in they use diaphragm springs enclosed in a round metal housing (#4). To the uninitiated, these springs look like flat pieces of steel and it is difficult to see how they would compress let alone absorb shock---but they do. The nut (#5). and it’s a big one that holds the package together at 80 to100 ft. lb.. torque, may come loose or may bottom out, fooling the wrench into thinking that the proper torque has been achieved although the knocking noise will belie that.

A simple test is to grab the diaphragm spring package (#4) firmly and try to rotate it. If you can, something is wrong because your hands can not generate horsepower. Replace the nut if it is bottoming out on the shaft. This culprit is sneaky, and most people don’t check it out.

Knocking Cams

If the nut is not at fault, on 1970 to 1982 models a cup is used as a thrust washer between the spring package. As the cup between the spring package (#3) wears, it gets thinner and exerts less pressure, allowing the cams to rattle by slapping each other, causing the "knock"

The two remaining assemblies since 1983 eliminate this cup and incorporate it in hardened metal to resist wear with the outer sliding cam (#1 with #3). The 1991 and up unit eliminated the blind hole on the end of the nut (#5) i.e., put the hole in the end and added a space. Both later units thinned the number of diaphragm springs to four in the steel housing (#4).

If compensator parts become worn an other noise may occur and that is a rattling rotor. The alternator is comprised of a stator and rotor and is sandwiched between the sprocket shaft extension (#6) and the outer motor case. The rotor’s splined inner fits on the corresponding sprocket shaft spline and rotates with the flywheels and the compensator. If excess play occurs it can cause a knock of it’s own. This must be fixed immediately because the stator can be damaged and make the charging system malfunction.

If on the road and a compensatory noise is diagnosed-- -most easily heard when taking off in first gear-- - you may proceed home at a steady speed if close by. However, if temporary repairs are required, you may add a diaphragm spring to the compensator package to beef it up. Of course, going to all this trouble you might as well replace the offending part or parts since the same amount of effort is required. An easy roadside fix is to put a washer under the compensator nut to take up excess play and increase spring tension. Another method is to get rid of the compensating unit altogether and go direct drive with a corresponding performance gain because a higher percentage of power will be transferred. Simply use an aftermarket splined motor sprocket or an original Harley one (40211-55) used on some early models.

The caller was inquiring about the cost of a bottom end rebuild on his Evo.

"How do you know it needs rebuilding?" I asked.

"She’s hammering away in there." He replied. "My drag pipes don’t even cover up the knocking."

Already, I knew from experience that it was a loose or worn compensating sprocket assembly.

I told the caller that I had good news for him or at least better news than he was expecting.

Over the years, I can’t think of a noise that’s raised more blood pressure than the dreaded bottom end knock, but the long and short of it is that in most cases, the culprit is something else entirely.

Truth is, a lot of mechanics can’t even detect this noise, especially in its early stages.

But being typical Harley riders, they immediately bypass all the simple, easy-to-fix inexpensive solutions and proceed to the most complicated, hard to get at and most costly-to-fix solutions.

Your first question should be "Can you tell me what’s causing this noise?", not "How much to do my bottom end? "Well, if you can hear your bottom end over the staccato of drag pipes, that sound would almost have to be the shattering of engine cases bouncing off the pavement as a broken connecting rod did its Grim Reaper" routine.

On the streets, I’ve only seen that scenario a few times in the last decade.

So, why don’t we examine what’s really causing this heart-palpitating noise?

Outside of a collapsed hydraulic lifter, nothing else can cause this much internal noise.

The lifter noise will come from the right side of the engine so it is easy to isolate or eliminate the problem. That leaves only one area to check, and that is the primary system, which is on the left side and connects the motor to the transmission delivering power back via the clutch to the rear wheel.

Now, the noises emanating form the primary are serious and require immediate attention, but they do not cost anywhere near that of bottom end work.

Check the simple and inexpensive solutions first

If you’re lucky, your primary chain could be too loose, and all that’s happening is that it’s constantly slapping against the inside of the primary case. That would take 15 minutes to repair. You may want to change the fluid since aluminum filings from the casing will not be attracted to the drain plug magnet. A loose or stretched chain can be whipsawing on and off the front sprocket, which also would make lots of noise and a jerking sensation, especially in high gear. That may simply be a loose chain but more likely it would be an unevenly worn one with tight and loose spots and/or worn out hooked sprocket.

Too tight a chain (or a worn one with tight spots) will cause a whine as opposed to a slapping or knocking and might cause the clutch to drag. this condition lessens the life of all components parts, including bearings.

No lubrication causes all kinds of havoc and noise and is evidenced by an orange rusty color evenly dispensed throughout the primary,. The chain must be inspected for a broken or missing (disintegrated) roller that can emit a grinding noise.

A constant grinding sound can be caused by a misaligned chain as it tries to re-cut teeth to accommodate its path more easily. I don’t even want to get into all the damage all those fine cuttings will initiate.

Also, a new chain should be broken in and checked after 500 miles. Consider changing oil as the break-in period generates lots of filings.

Loose nuts on the primary adjuster will allow it to flop up and down. After these chain-related problems are checked, examine the compensating sprocket assembly.

Compensating Sprockets

Big Twins since 1955 and Sportsters from 1957 to the mid-70s used four basic types of engine-to-transmission power shock absorption devices. The pulsing energy of the motor is cushioned to protect the power train back through the transmission.

The downside to these various mechanisms is that they suffer some power transfer loss from the engine to the rear well as it grabs the asphalt. This is another reason that the Sportster is faster than the Big Twin since many models are direct drive with only a sprocket and not the added compensating sprocket assembly

Bottom End Grenade

Although I recommend checking primary chain problems first, the bottom end knock invariably comes from a malfunctioning compensator. A mechanic can easily tell the difference between the two noises with a stethoscope, but this requires experience. Why would it sound like a bottom end knock? Because it’s attached to a bottom end component - the flywheel sprocket shaft. Although sprocket shaft bearing assembly spacing determines end play of the flywheels and their positioning inside the motor cases----- 35lb. flywheels rotating up to 6500 RPM would turn into a grenade if allowed to rotate into the motor case housing-----the compensating sprocket package ensures that this crucial end play is maintained.

So, when this assembly malfunctions through improper torque or wear, the accompanying noise transfers along the sprocket shaft into the bottom end, leading the rider to think the connecting rods, crank pin and associated bearing are worn beyond tolerance and therefore causing the insidious knock.

But not so.

IS THE SPRING STILL SPRINGING?

There are four main compensating assemblies used in Harley. Only one, which incorporates a coiled spring looks like an absorption device. The 1955-69 Big Twin and all Sportster compensators use this spring type device.

Two interlocking cams (#1 & #2) ride up on each other, transferring the power surge and compressing the attached spring to absorb the initial shock while the main thrust goes back along the primary chain through the transmission and the clutch to the rear wheel. After the shock, the cams are forced to rotate back to their resting position by the decompressing spring.

The three remaining types of compensators are similar in that they still used the rotating cams but they differ in they use diaphragm springs enclosed in a round metal housing (#4). To the uninitiated, these springs look like flat pieces of steel and it is difficult to see how they would compress let alone absorb shock---but they do. The nut (#5). and it’s a big one that holds the package together at 80 to100 ft. lb.. torque, may come loose or may bottom out, fooling the wrench into thinking that the proper torque has been achieved although the knocking noise will belie that.

A simple test is to grab the diaphragm spring package (#4) firmly and try to rotate it. If you can, something is wrong because your hands can not generate horsepower. Replace the nut if it is bottoming out on the shaft. This culprit is sneaky, and most people don’t check it out.

Knocking Cams

If the nut is not at fault, on 1970 to 1982 models a cup is used as a thrust washer between the spring package. As the cup between the spring package (#3) wears, it gets thinner and exerts less pressure, allowing the cams to rattle by slapping each other, causing the "knock"

The two remaining assemblies since 1983 eliminate this cup and incorporate it in hardened metal to resist wear with the outer sliding cam (#1 with #3). The 1991 and up unit eliminated the blind hole on the end of the nut (#5) i.e., put the hole in the end and added a space. Both later units thinned the number of diaphragm springs to four in the steel housing (#4).

If compensator parts become worn an other noise may occur and that is a rattling rotor. The alternator is comprised of a stator and rotor and is sandwiched between the sprocket shaft extension (#6) and the outer motor case. The rotor’s splined inner fits on the corresponding sprocket shaft spline and rotates with the flywheels and the compensator. If excess play occurs it can cause a knock of it’s own. This must be fixed immediately because the stator can be damaged and make the charging system malfunction.

If on the road and a compensatory noise is diagnosed-- -most easily heard when taking off in first gear-- - you may proceed home at a steady speed if close by. However, if temporary repairs are required, you may add a diaphragm spring to the compensator package to beef it up. Of course, going to all this trouble you might as well replace the offending part or parts since the same amount of effort is required. An easy roadside fix is to put a washer under the compensator nut to take up excess play and increase spring tension. Another method is to get rid of the compensating unit altogether and go direct drive with a corresponding performance gain because a higher percentage of power will be transferred. Simply use an aftermarket splined motor sprocket or an original Harley one (40211-55) used on some early models.

Can you tell me what’s causing this noise?

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Tip#1   LEAKY FORK

On a road trip and your fork seals stop sealing? Got to get home but the fork or forks will run dry? What to do? Here is an old dirt bike trick that will work fine as a temporary fix for your Harley. Put a half ounce of common rubbing alcohol, available at any variety or drug store, into the fork tube. This will cause the seals to swell and therefore start working again.

Tip#2   GAS AND OIL DO NOT MIX

Remember to turn the gas off on your Hog, even when just stopping for a few minutes.  Unlike a car where the gas must be pumped into the carburetor, a Harley has a gravity feed where the gas tank is always above the engine.   When the petcock is left on, the float in the carburetor is the sole mechanism to prevent cylinder washdown.  Something you really don’t want to experience.  Gasoline, while a derivative of oil, is a solvent that dilutes and incapacitates oil’s ability to lubricate.  The float on most modern new carburetors is pretty reliable and it’s function is to keep a certain amount of gas ready for use in the carburetor at any given time.  The float is normally located in the float bowl on the bottom of the carb.  If a piece of grit locates between the float needle and seat (believe me, it happens) it will change the height of the float and the amount of gas in the bowl.   The excess gas can go into the engine with disastrous results.  If you suspect this has happened change your oil immediately.

Tip#3 LIMITING KITS
When installing a hi-lift cam in your Evo install a limiting kit in the hydraulic unit of the lifter. This prevents the hydraulic lifter from bleeding down causing play which causes a ticking noise and a loss of power at higher rpms. The limiting kit allows the lifter to act like a hydraulic with normal riding and as a solid unit when twisting the throttle.

The stock .472” to .495” lifts in Evo Big Twins, depending on the year, are much greater than the stock .412” lift in the Shovels. The Evos are able to easily accommodate these lifts because of decreased side loading since the valve angles are not as great. A cam with a .495” lift in a Shovelhead is a radical street grind which calls for the use of slippier bronze valve guides and roller rockers to offset the increased valve side thrust whereas the Evos do not require these specialized parts until perhaps a .550” lift although we use them starting at a .525” lift at Heavy Duty Cycles.

Tip#5 SPARK PLUGS FOR PRE-EVO

Ever notice on the older bikes where plugs seem to foul easier and more often for no apparent reason? This is because the gas has changed to meet the needs of modern engines like the Evo.  The best cure is not so much with heat ranges although modest increases will help as using “hot plug” technology that uses computer-designed electrode shapes and exotic metals such as platinum and palladium to create a larger and more aggressive burn.  Most major plug companies have their version of High Output technology plugs, so try one like Champion.

   These are the wave of the future and create a small measurable increase in horse-power in the Evos, so just think what they’ll do for the classic Harleys. When hot plug technology is combined into the Splitfire design the improvement will be even better.  The Lowly, much ignored spark plug that’s only worth a couple of bucks must be hot when the engine is cold, (for easier starting and cold fouling prevention), and it must be cool when the engine is hot, (to prevent preignition or detonation).  That’s quite a tall order for a part that often gets no respect.

Tip#6 WHAT DOES A SQUARE MOTOR MEAN?

Noooo….it doesn’t mean it’s not hip. But if you listen to old time wrenches, they talk longingly about the mythical square motor for Harley and all the benefits that would bring.

A square motor is one in which the length of the stroke is equal to the diameter of the bore.Stroke is the distance the connecting rod or piston, (which are attached to each other), travels up the cylinder or conversely travels down the cylinder. The 1340cc Big Twin has a stroke of  4 1/4 inches which means the piston travels up the cylinder on the compression and exhausts strokes for a distance of 4 ¼ inches or conversely down the cylinder on the intake and power strokes for the same distance. Now, the bore diameter of the cylinder, barrel, jug or whatever you want to call it is 3 ½ inches on the Big Twin. This is simply how wide the piston is that goes up and down inside the cylinder. Therefore the 1340cc Big Twin is an under-square motor since the bore diameter is less than the length of the stroke. This is also why the Harley-speak word “stroker” refers to some hi-performance engines that have a longer stroke than stock. It follows that an over square engine has a greater diameter bore than the length of stroke.

Tip#7 DUAL PLUG YOUR HEADS?

The Shovel has a “rich burn” system with more gas and less air while the Evos have a “lean burn” system utilizing less gas and more air. The “rich burn” results in a poor mix for combustion in these hemispherical shaped combustion chambers. Dual-plugging a hemi engine such as the Shovel, Pan, Knuck and Iron XL,  produces a higher percentage of burn; therefore creating more combustion, which produces more horsepower and less harmful emissions.  It becomes evident that dual-plugging is not really necessary in the Evo combustion chamber as the  head and piston design overcomes the burn problem because it turbulently mixes the air/gas more efficiently.The “lean burn” system of the Evo allows for less gas and more air to produce more horsepower and fewer toxic emissions.

Tip#8 THE MYTH OF PREMIUM GAS

It is time to dispel a common myth or misconception regarding premium gasoline versus regular   gasoline. The primary difference between the two is the octane rating, although premium usually contains a wider variety of additives to prevent corrosion and preignition. A lot of people think that premium will make their bike go faster or even further because of superior quality.  But the truth is that regular and premium gas produce the same energy or heat-producing ability, which is measured in BTUs (British Thermal Units). So why use premium?  It is how  the energy is produced that results in more horsepower and better gas mileage and premium produces energy in a different way to produce more horsepower in higher-compression engines than regular.  It does this by having a higher octane rating such as that of  the 87 minimum recommended by Harley which prevents counterproductive preignition and detonation which robs horsepower.

Tip#9 SOFT VALVE SEATS

Lead is an octane booster which also acts as a cushion between the valve and its mating seat as they are forced closed by the valve springs.  Pre-1982 Harleys use relatively soft valves and seats and lead’s cushioning function is very important in protecting these parts by preventing impact damage. This is why a leaded fuel should be used in these bikes.  Or, they should be converted to use unleaded -compatible seats, valves and mating guides.But in your post-1981 Harley, hardened compatible valves are used with hardened seats and the cushioning function of lead is no longer required or wanted.

Tip#10 PREIGNITION & DETONATION

Preignition or “knocking” is just what it says.  The gas ignites before the spark plug fires.  Temperatures can rise in the cylinder to the point that the gas ignites without benefit of a firing plug. First, the upward bound piston must fight the pressure created by preignition and second, there is inadequate pressure left to form a true power stroke to force the piston down, therefore, the bike is effectively slowed down.  Thirdly, and more destructively, the rising temperatures created by ”knocking’ could lead to a seized motor via  the piston and cylinder wall bonding and attempting to become one, or, the piston might simply melt! Like preignition, detonation is caused by excessively high temperatures and/or pressures.  With preignition, think “heat” and “meltdown” while detonation is synonymous with violence, explosiveness and destruction. A controlled, expanding burn is met with the shock waves of an uncontrolled explosion and it inherent pressures that bounce off  cylinder walls, causing a rattling sound like metal hitting metal, or pinging Detonation is really bad as it shortens engine life by pounding pistons, con rods and associated bearings. Some causes are manifold air leaks, lean carburetion, low octane gas, wrong ignition timing and too much compression.

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